The Outer Limits: More "porkers" from the Quebec police

“He also said one of the officers was given a rock by protesters but the officer had no intention of using it.”

“One of the extremists gave the rock to one of our police officers and he had a choice to make,” [Insp. Marcel] Savard said. He was asked by extremists to throw the rock at the police, but never had any intention of using it.”

Bullshit… If he had no intention of using it or had no intention of inciting violence, what purpose did he have in holding a rock? The only people seen holding rocks were the ones pointed out as police. Did they hold a gun to his head and say “Throw that rock!”?

“The thing that was interesting in this particular incident, three people in question were spotted by protesters because were not engaging in violence,” [Stockwell] Day said Friday in Vancouver.

“They were being encouraged to throw rocks and they were not throwing rocks, it was the protesters who were throwing the rocks. That’s the irony of this,” said Day, adding the actions were substantiated by the video that he has seen of the protests.

“Because they were not engaging in violence, it was noted that they were probably not protesters. I think that’s a bit of an indictment against the violent protesters.”

Again, I say “Bullshit”. Does this pinhead think that Canadians are so stupid as to not be able to view the video and see that this is a flat-out lie? (not to mention the fact that no one threw rocks at this particular spot. It begs the question… If rocks were thrown elsewhere, was it police provocateurs who DID throw them? More undercover police?).

No, the “irony” is that you actually think that Canadians will believe this if said repeatedly.

These men were called out because they were advancing towards the line of police carrying rocks and refused to back down when confronted by a man in a business suit carrying a plastic shopping bag (I can see the headlines “Riot Police Terrorized By Empty Loblaws Bag!”). The only people using abusive language or threatening postures were the undercover police. None of the so-called “extremists” threatened them. None of THEM were using threatening gestures. They called them out from at least 10 feet away.

One man and his shopping bag… Who needs a rock, anyway?


These three continued to act in a threatening manner when told to back off by a protest organizer demanding that a peaceful protest be maintained.

For the police to place undercover police within the crowds to monitor the demonstration and to prevent violence is not the issue. What is the issue is the actions of these three officers while supposedly “monitoring” the crowd. If they were simply monitoring, they would not have been at the front of the line, breaching the line of peaceful demonstrators, far away from the so-called “extremeists” and heading straight at the police with rocks in their hands.

In a crowd that size, had they been “coerced” into hefting rocks, they could simply have fallen back, dropped the rocks and made their way either to another part of the line or back to the police lines with no one being any the wiser.

Instead, they push their way into the line of middle-aged protesters in street-clothes, well away from the people they were supposedly “blending in” with, carrying weapons, acting in a menacing manner, and when called out, unlike anyone else confronted in a similar manner, they continue on, shoving and swearing at a protest organizer and advance on the police line.

The Quebec police don’t even have the sense to simply shut up and admit that if these guys weren’t told to cause trouble so police could get rough, they acted foolishly and quietly back away from the issue.

Keep on digging, Boys, you might still be able to reach China. Tienanmen Square sound familiar?

Police provocateurs at Montebello Summit

The Outer Limits: More "porkers" from the Quebec police

“He also said one of the officers was given a rock by protesters but the officer had no intention of using it.”

“One of the extremists gave the rock to one of our police officers and he had a choice to make,” [Insp. Marcel] Savard said. He was asked by extremists to throw the rock at the police, but never had any intention of using it.”

Bullshit… If he had no intention of using it or had no intention of inciting violence, what purpose did he have in holding a rock? The only people seen holding rocks were the ones pointed out as police. Did they hold a gun to his head and say “Throw that rock!”?

“The thing that was interesting in this particular incident, three people in question were spotted by protesters because were not engaging in violence,” [Stockwell] Day said Friday in Vancouver.

“They were being encouraged to throw rocks and they were not throwing rocks, it was the protesters who were throwing the rocks. That’s the irony of this,” said Day, adding the actions were substantiated by the video that he has seen of the protests.

“Because they were not engaging in violence, it was noted that they were probably not protesters. I think that’s a bit of an indictment against the violent protesters.”

Again, I say “Bullshit”. Does this pinhead think that Canadians are so stupid as to not be able to view the video and see that this is a flat-out lie? (not to mention the fact that no one threw rocks at this particular spot. It begs the question… If rocks were thrown elsewhere, was it police provocateurs who DID throw them? More undercover police?).

No, the “irony” is that you actually think that Canadians will believe this if said repeatedly.

These men were called out because they were advancing towards the line of police carrying rocks and refused to back down when confronted by a man in a business suit carrying a plastic shopping bag (I can see the headlines “Riot Police Terrorized By Empty Loblaws Bag!”). The only people using abusive language or threatening postures were the undercover police. None of the so-called “extremists” threatened them. None of THEM were using threatening gestures. They called them out from at least 10 feet away.

One man and his shopping bag… Who needs a rock, anyway?


These three continued to act in a threatening manner when told to back off by a protest organizer demanding that a peaceful protest be maintained.

For the police to place undercover police within the crowds to monitor the demonstration and to prevent violence is not the issue. What is the issue is the actions of these three officers while supposedly “monitoring” the crowd. If they were simply monitoring, they would not have been at the front of the line, breaching the line of peaceful demonstrators, far away from the so-called “extremeists” and heading straight at the police with rocks in their hands.

In a crowd that size, had they been “coerced” into hefting rocks, they could simply have fallen back, dropped the rocks and made their way either to another part of the line or back to the police lines with no one being any the wiser.

Instead, they push their way into the line of middle-aged protesters in street-clothes, well away from the people they were supposedly “blending in” with, carrying weapons, acting in a menacing manner, and when called out, unlike anyone else confronted in a similar manner, they continue on, shoving and swearing at a protest organizer and advance on the police line.

The Quebec police don’t even have the sense to simply shut up and admit that if these guys weren’t told to cause trouble so police could get rough, they acted foolishly and quietly back away from the issue.

Keep on digging, Boys, you might still be able to reach China. Tienanmen Square sound familiar?

Police provocateurs at Montebello Summit

Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello protest

“Quebec provincial police admitted Thursday that three of their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators during the protest at the North American leaders summit in Montebello, Que.

However, the police force denied allegations its undercover officers were there on Monday to provoke the crowd and instigate violence.

At no time did the police of the Sûreté du Québec act as instigators or commit criminal acts,” the police force said in French in a news release. “It is not in the police force’s policies, nor in its strategies, to act in that manner.

“At all times, they responded within their mandate to keep order and security.

Police said the three undercover officers were only at the protest to locate and identify non-peaceful protesters in order to prevent any incidents.

Police came under fire Tuesday, when a video surfaced on YouTube that appeared to show three plainclothes police officers at the protest with bandanas across their faces. One of the men was carrying a rock.

In the video, protest organizers in suits order the men to put the rock down, call them police instigators and try unsuccessfully to unmask them.

Protest organizers on Wednesday played the video for the media at a news conference in Ottawa. One of the organizers, union leader Dave Coles, explained that one reason protesters knew the men’s true identities was because they were wearing the same boots as other police officers.

Coles said on Wednesday that the only thing he didn’t know was whether the men were Quebec police, RCMP or hired security officers.

“[Our union] believes that the security force at Montebello were ordered to infiltrate our peaceful assembly and provoke incidents,” said Coles, president of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union.

Police said the three were told to monitor protesters who were not peacefully demonstrating to prevent any violent incidents, but they were called out as undercover agents when they refused to throw objects.

The protest at Montebello occurred outside the Fairmont Le Château Montebello hotel, near Ottawa, where Prime Minister Stephen Harper was meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush and Mexican President Felipe Calderon. The summit about border security, free trade and other issues began Monday and finished Tuesday.

Protesters said they gathered to voice their concern about Canada losing control of its energy and water resources and borders. Others decried what they called a high level of secrecy at the summit.

The Quebec provincial police will not comment any further on the affair, a spokeswoman in Montreal said.

Quebec Justice Minister Jacques Dupuis was made aware of the news, but a spokesman from his office said he will not comment on the matter either.”

To the claims by the Surete, highlighted above in red…. I say “Bullshit”.

To this porker “At no time did the police of the Sûreté du Québec act as instigators or commit criminal acts” I say “Only because you were caught out in time”.

To this “Police said the three were told to monitor protesters who were not peacefully demonstrating to prevent any violent incidents, but they were called out as undercover agents when they refused to throw objects.” I say, “You were called out becuase you advanced in a threatening manner, carrying rocks, on a peaceful line of demonstrators and, when told to turn back, you refused”.

The Surete lied, continues to lie, and I suspect was at the root of other violence at the Summit protests.

The Prime Minister should repudiate the actions of the Surete and call an inquiry, or step down. Preferably all three.

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